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Is Croatia v. Wales A Must-Win For The Vatreni?

June 5, 2019

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The short answer. No.

 

 

However, if the Vatreni can’t get a win – at home – against a pretty mediocre Welsh side, we can start to worry. Although Croatia will be without the services of Rakitić, Rebić, and Vlašić – all out with injury – there is enough firepower on this Vatreni side to put three goals past the Welsh on home soil.

 

 

Wales best player, Gareth Bale, hasn’t played a competitive match for Real Madrid since the end of April and should be rusty. That’s definitely not promising for them.

 

 

Luka Modrić will run the midfield for the Vatreni – per usual – with Perisic and Kramarić expected to get the start and supply ample firepower in the offensive end.

 

 

Former wunderkind Alen Halilović has been called up to the senior squad and could come off the bench late for Croatia. If he could score a goal alongside the veterans, it could jump start his young career.

  

 
After the Wales match, Croatia will have played three of their eight Euro qualifiers. Although not a MUST-WIN, Croatian fans will implode if their beloved Vatreni do not grab all three points in Osijek Saturday at 9AM (ET). The match can been seen on ESPN2 in the States.

 

 

Prediction: 3-1 Croatia

 

 

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Ante Kvartuč
Posted By: Ante Kvartuč 80 comments





  1. Anonymous says:

    Go Wales!

    I’m going to the game with my Croatian national/ethnic Serb buddies to start some racist chants in protest of Mamic.
    Hopefully Giggs is true to his word.

    Anyone can be a Croat, even ethnic Serbs. And as an ethnic Serb Croatian national I don’t want my Croatia to make the Euros because of corruption.



  2. Anonymous says:

    Speaking of Serbia, They have a very good team. And I am not just saying this because of the Jovic to Madrid Deal. I have been thinking this for a long time.

    I don’t know if any of you guys watched Serbian play Brazil in the World Cup. Serbia hold their own. I think they’re going to do some wonderful things in the future.

    I don’t care if anyone on this site thinks I’m less Croatian because I like watching Serbian play. This is futbol. It’s fun when both countries are good just like back in 1998.



  3. Stipe says:

    Speaking of Serbia, They have a very good team. And I am not just saying this because of the Jovic to Madrid Deal. I have been thinking this for a long time.

    I don’t know if any of you guys watched Serbian play Brazil in the World Cup. Serbia held their own. I think they’re going to do some wonderful things in the future.

    I don’t care if anyone on this site thinks I’m less Croatian because I like watching Serbian play. This is futbol. It’s fun when both countries are good just like back in 1998.



  4. Anonymous says:

    “I don’t care if anyone on this site thinks I’m less Croatian because I like watching Serbian play. This is futbol.”

    I’m a Croatian national and ethnic Serb, you can call me a Serbian Croatian, and I don’t consider anyone on this site as a bigger Croat than me.



  5. Suba says:

    Want it still Yugoslavia in 98

    The team was on decent because red Croatian um monteningrins

    Serbs can’t play football Jovic will be a bust at real u will see



  6. Miloš Hvar says:

    Don’t fucking start with these stupid conversations that trolls just bait you all into. This post is about the Wales match let’s talk about that. It always amazes me how some of you aren’t smart enough to realize that to get rid of a troll you just ignore them.

    I’m thinking we are going to see a formation with Brekalo on the wing with Kramaric up top but also wouldn’t surprise me if it what Kramaric on the wing and Petkovic up top. I’d prefer the Brekalo/Kramaric option



  7. Slavonac from Canada says:

    Being overly confident can be your biggest enemy!

    Although I do agree that we should win this game on home turf, I’m also very aware that many things can happen leading up to the game that can impact the outcome.

    The comment about Bale being “RUSTY” cracks me up! What a funny comment and it has been said not once, not twice but at least 3 times! Bale only needs one long pass against a slower defender and he’s in the clear. I’m not saying it will happen but to label him as “rusty” clearly shows you lack an understanding of an athlete!

    Playing with the National team is far different from playing with a club. Strategy is different, formation can be different, strengths and weaknesses are also different.

    How many here that have played the game on one team might have played a lesser role and seen less service/passes while on another team you might be the key player and often times, a lot of the play is through you!?

    That one factor changes things a lot! As the game goes on and you get more touches on the ball, you can definitely get your mojo back (lose the rust) and create chances. Its not like Bale forgot how to play or that he’s lost his speed…the guy is still very dangerous!

    I still believe we will win and I think we can win by a decent margin but I am not banking on Bale being out of form. I am basing this on how I believe our team can control the play and through our possession, we limit their chances and keep them from countering us! That will be their strategy…,they will definitely try the quick counter-attack, they’ll probably try to slow us down by creating breakages in play (fouls/throw-ins/play the ball around their back) so we lose our flow. This is my guess, I really don’t know much about this Wales team and would be surprised to see them dictate the play.



  8. Slavonac from Canada says:

    One major difference in this post World Cup team vs the World Cup team is this. We lost a massive amount of our pressing when we lost Mandzukic. Between Mandzukic, Rebic and Perisic, we would usually have the luxury of pressing high and creating several chances through our opponents panic and mistakes. We saw it over and over during the World Cup!

    Kramaric does not cover much area while defending…and he does not press high, which means we lost 20 yards and allow our opponents to carry the ball into our half of the field before we press them. I’m not sure who will start on the right side this upcoming game (Brekalo?) but whoever it is will have a big job to do. We will be banking on possession and creativity…we don’t really have a different option.



  9. Miloš Hvar says:

    Well said @Slavonac. I agree I think we are putting too much into Bale being “rusty”. He is going to be dangerous, that is a fact. None of our players are going to underestimate him. Similar to how England media/fans underestimated us but their players knew our quality. This game will test us with a lot of injuries but i think we come out hungry with guys wanting to step up. 2-0.
    ……..Kramaric…….
    Perisic..Modric..Brekalo..
    ..Kovacic…..Brozovic..
    Barisic.Lovren.Vida.Jedvaj.
    ……..Livakovic…..



  10. Anonymous says:

    The ‘pressing’ is the reason why I think Rebic is a bigger loss for us than Rakitic.

    Rakitic can be kind of replaced with someone like Kovacic or Modric (if we had Vlasic starting behind the strikers).
    Sadly, we lost Vlasic too, who I think is a game changer.

    Wales doesn’t have a lot of skilled players, and having a physical threat like Rebic causing problems in their area will result in an error, leading to a goal.

    I am most afraid of players like Kovacic trying to play with too much finesse…passing laterally, and looking for that perfect pass into the box that never comes.

    Wales isn’t that kind of team where you can do this. I like the ‘bull in the china shop’ mentality for this game instead.

    We need Perisic and Brekalo to be aggressive this game. Krama just needs to pounce on a rebound or loose ball to end this game in our favor.



  11. Maminjo says:

    The ‘pressing’ is the reason why I think Rebic is a bigger loss for us than Rakitic.

    Rakitic can be kind of replaced with someone like Kovacic or Modric (if we had Vlasic starting behind the strikers).
    Sadly, we lost Vlasic too, who I think is a game changer.

    Wales doesn’t have a lot of skilled players, and having a physical threat like Rebic causing problems in their area will result in an error, leading to a goal.

    I am most afraid of players like Kovacic trying to play with too much finesse…passing laterally, and looking for that perfect pass into the box that never comes.

    Wales isn’t that kind of team where you can do this. I like the ‘bull in the china shop’ mentality for this game instead.

    We need Perisic and Brekalo to be aggressive this game. Krama just needs to pounce on a rebound or loose ball to end this game in our favor.



  12. Cro Jersey Guy says:

    Maybe Luka Jovic will be a bust in the Spanish League the German League is well below the Spanish League.



  13. NK Susak says:

    A must win? Realistically, probably not, only because teams in this AWKWARD group (which I’ve been calling it from day one) will steal points off each other. But God forbid we drop three points here…can you imagine the doom and gloom from the media and fans in less than a years time when we were flying atop of the world. In less than 12 months, we will go from world beaters, to calling for Dalics’ head. So a must win? In my book, on home soil, most certainly.



  14. Suba says:

    Croatia will be scoring the winning goal to make it 2 1 in the 83rd minute

    We don’t know any other way folks



  15. Vis says:

    We need Brozovic and Kovacic to play at a high level consistently and for the both of them especially Kovacic to start attacking directly at the goal and start tallying up shots on goal.



  16. Elvis says:

    Wow it’s been a year now since the most
    Glorious WC ever. Hope the boys win Saturday
    Just to bring back some of that joy.



  17. vuki says:

    @Milos Hvar
    I like that line-up. It’s the same one that I posted on the Lovren thread the other day and what I think Dalic should/will go for.

    Also, like Slavonac said, I’m not sure why we’re basically writing off Bale in these articles. It doesn’t really matter if you’re “rusty” when it comes to performing in one match. Hence, why Lovren is probably going to start for us. He hasn’t been playing consistently for Liverpool, but he’s still our starter. We’ve had a few players like that over the years. Pretty sure for most of his time at Atletico, Vrsaljko was the back-up RB behind Juanfran, but we never said he shouldn’t start for us because he was a crucial player and we were confident he would do the job (even though I do recall people complaining about him all the time hoping for Srna to come back). Basically, it’s not like Bale is injured. He’s perhaps not match-fit, but with someone like him, he can just pull out a brilliant performance out of no where. I personally expect him to perform well considering how frustrated he is at Madrid right now. He has something to prove and that is not the type of player you want to play against.

    However, I definitely still back us to win this game. Especially after the embarrassing Hungary loss. We win that game if we keep pressuring them after the first goal. We won the silver medal at a World Cup, we need to start playing every game like a team that is good enough to do that. Haven’t seen any of that fire since the game we beat Spain off Jedvaj’s brace. I’m expecting a 2-0 scoreline. Hoping for more, but am cautiously optimistic as we probably all should be.



  18. Suba says:

    It is time to play Brozovic more up higher in the midfield in this game he’s got attacking qualities remember when he tore Norway apart



  19. Soul Champ says:

    The match being in Osijek saves us.

    Slavonija is our heartland.

    The boys will feel that and give there all.

    Brozovic is our best CDM hands down.

    Let him bang in a couple long range bombs on the secondary attack.

    Halilovic is needed in this one.

    He has no problem playing against Wales at home.

    I say start him on the RW.

    Brekalo is a great joker off the bench.

    Kovačić simply has to show up and be aggressive.

    His speed is pivotal for this match as Rebić and Vlašić are two core members of our speed crew.

    Special prayer to have Perišić be in the mood.

    Maybe he wants to show British media how good he is?



  20. Vis says:

    Getting up at 6am tomorrow to watch the game live on ESPN 2
    and then off to Avaya Stadium to see the San Jose Earthquakes vs FC Dallas. Go Hrvatska! Go Quakes!



  21. Misko says:

    Our defense must put the fear of god into the most ardent Wales atheist soccer supporter.
    Vida is the only reliable one we have back there!
    Will Lovren be wearing his asexual cologne during the game.
    Jedvaj can’t get a sniff in Germany for an average club team but starts for us PRICELESS!



  22. CroatiaU14 says:

    @Misko Jedvaj is a good player. I’m surprised he doesn’t start for Leverkusen. He normally plays well when he’s on the field. Chances are Leverkusen will sell all their young German guys, like Tah, a defender, and that will create more opportunities for Jedvaj to play. I feel our back line should line up like this.

    Vida Lovren Benković Jedvaj
    Livaković

    Do you guys agree? I know Barišić is good, but I say we give our Big Ben a chance at CB. He’s tall, fast, and strong, and can score goals off of headers. I feel he is better than Ćaleta-Car.



  23. Medo says:

    Beware the Lovren spray…they shall question your way…are you straight or a thirsty gay…hip HIP hooray….beware the Lovren spray!



  24. Maminjo says:

    I would love to see Filip Benković play.

    Ideally he should have been on the team sooner, so not to have to be capped for the first time in such big games. But I think he’s potentially already better than all of our other defenders already.



  25. Billy Idol says:

    Yeah U14, I bet huge on Serbia because an anonymous poster once said that Serbia “has a very good team.” Fool me once!



  26. CroatiaU14 says:

    I feel that Jovic is overrated. Our very own Rebić creates a ton of goals for Frankfurt, and deserves more recognition than Jović gets. I feel he’s going to flop in Madrid, while Rebić will continue to grow and get better and better at a middle-class club and eventually make a big switch.



  27. Razbijač says:

    With Jovic and Milinkovic-Savic grabbing headlines of late, people are talking about the improvement of Serbian football….

    5-0 demolition by Ukraine…shows they still gotta long way to go….



  28. Skanderbeg says:

    I just saw something unbelievable, a negro was substituted out for another negro by a negro coach for IRELAND (ie Aryanland)!

    If you would have predicted this just 30 years ago you would have been called a “redneck alarmist”.

    There was an “anti-racist” group in France that complained that the Croatian team was “too White”.

    And now some MORON will reply to my post saying “Why are you so worried about northern europeans?”



  29. CroatiaU14 says:

    @Razbijač

    Milinkovic-Savic is a one season wonder from 2017-2018. Lazio sucked this year partly because he didn’t do anything



  30. Skanderbeg says:

    Can a Chinese guy be Nigerian? Can a black guy be Chinese? No, but anybody can German, French, Irish, etc. And we all know that this is so ridiculous that not ONE person from the ENTIRE “free press” is allowed to question it and will viciously attack any white person who does.

    Do the self proclaimed “protectors of free speech” wear red capes on their off days, even when they aren’t protecting our free speech?



  31. . .Crnkovic says:

    Whoever posted as me above, please continue. Lmfao. As for skanderberg troll. There are plenty of white Africans, asking as their loyalty is to the nation they were born in and live in, nobody questions it. I bet there are thousands of black Chinese, you just don’t know about them, because the Chinese don’t whine like bitches about insignificant issues



  32. . .Crnkovic says:

    Racism is dumb shit. My country Zambia had a white president recently. He was voted into power because he was the best candidate. Majority of the country support and love him. Then there are always a few pumped up idiots saying “we shouldn’t have a white president it’s a disgrace”. So you are on a level with lowest 5 per cent Africans in terms of intellect. Go figure



  33. . .Crnkovic says:

    I’m mixed. Half Zambian half Croat. Let’s say I did some studying. Learnt all about economics and politics and decided to do my Dida proud. I would clean up Croatia, get rid of corruption, create jobs, infrastructure you name it. Make it strong independent and proud. So would you rather have me, a mixed race president who makes Croatia a much much better place! Or kolinda?



  34. Suba says:

    Jovic and the sergej are overrated

    Serbs always look good on paper but collapse when it matters just like in the wars they wage



  35. Skanderbeg says:

    @”Crnkovic”, my guess is you’re just a self-hating, self-sacrificing white traitor.

    Your justification for assimilating white people out of existence is that there’s a few thousand blacks amongst a population of 1 billion chinese? And that’s not even true of course. What’s the % of whites in Zambia?

    Why are you bitching about White people existing in the future? How is that not “racist” hypocrite??



  36. Skanderbeg says:

    LOL! A mulatto is going to clean up Croatia, just like all those other wonderful brown countries! LOL!

    It’s funny how these Political Correctness fanatics who toe the party line, don’t say anything that incurs any risk, call REAL revolutionaries “bitches”. LOL! Okay tough guy.



  37. Skanderbeg says:

    “Crnkovic” is no different than Jim Jones of Jones town, genes don’t matter, ethnic Croats don’t matter – that’s “racist”. What matters is that you follow his beliefs. So of course he can’t tolerate anyone else’s beliefs/free speech. He even said blacks in Zambia who don’t subscribe to his beliefs are “racist” too.

    I don’t want anything to do with Zambia, blacks have a right to their own countries, but not to ours.



  38. Skanderbeg says:

    I’m White, do I demand that non-white countries become White too?? “Crnkovic” says he’s a mulatto and demands ONLY White countries become non-white just like him. He’s a regular here, you let him tell you over and over and over that your kind doesn’t deserve to exist, and that’s okay??



  39. Skanderbeg says:

    @”Crnkovic”, you are such a fucking dishonest piece of absolute shit, when’s the last time you saw a black chinese guy??? But you say “I bet there’s a few blacks in China” to justify every white country becoming non-white. This is EXACTLY what “anti-racism” is, these are HIS words, but none of you can admit it the OBVIOUS that “anti-racism” is just antiWhite.



  40. Skanderbeg says:

    @”Suba”, you’re such a fucking moron, what wars do Serbian wage? The worst wars in history were Wordist wars, one belief against another, like Catholic vs Protestant which killed 1/3 of the German population in Europe – that’s what you get when you can’t tolerate other people’s beliefs even when those people are your own kind. If you’re a nationalist and you want people to respect your independence than you have to respect other nations’ independence.



  41. Skanderbeg says:

    @filip, thanks for the support, just remember though, it’s not “replacement” in that we are being moved out of a location, it’s not like the P.C. establishment is allowing Whites to move to a place of our own, they are chasing us down with “diversity” everywhere we are and everywhere we go. They don’t want our land, they want our blood. All the conditions that lead to whites having mulatto children instead of white children are forced, that’s genocide. If you live in an all white country the children will be white, right?

    Well if you start pouring in non-whites to every single white community, have integration laws, and teach white kids that they are to blame for the world’s problems and incessantly show race mixing propaganda completely out of proportion with reality despite all the other conditions, you’re going to get mulattos instead of whites.

    This may be hard to believe, people like to laugh things like this off b/c they are afraid of reality, but this is serious shit, the people guilty for this are going to get fucked up bad, one way or another.



  42. Suba says:

    Fuck off skandeberg whatever your stupid name is have u forgotten the Balkan wars ww1 and Yugoslav wars your a fuckin moron



  43. vuki says:

    @Dannyj

    Yeah, no Caleta-Car for u21s because apparently Marseille wants him to be at the beginning of training camp. Really unfortunate, but I still have confidence in the combo and Benkovic and Katic.



  44. Iggy Iggy says:

    I’ve got a really bad feeling about this game, just have little confidence in our performances lately and not feeling it, i hope im wrong tho and i’ll be watching and having a few drinks so ffs plz can we win



  45. Poglavnik says:

    Iggy always coming out of the woods just to let us know he’s got a terrible feeling and he’s scared shitless.



  46. Dannyj says:

    Lol true Pog

    Iggy breathe man
    Losing to Hungary let’s hope was a huge wake
    Up call

    I was on the xtra time forum and I see the Serb trolls are up their thing on our forums

    Please guys Croat friends don’t let other Croat friends troll like that. It’s just so weak

    Anyways we are here basically all even we are in this as it was the first day. Let’s do this!

    Like someone said it’s in Osijek
    Fans gonna have that place lit up proper Croat style

    Modric gonna boss. He had a slow season. He gonna end it like a boss(I hope)



  47. Iggy Iggy says:

    To be fair guys i do often have anxiety issues so it’s not unusual for me!

    Im sure my heart rate during the WC was dangerous lmao

    but yeah im just scared! I thought we got our wake up call vs spain 6-0? Nope, Hungary loss? Err maybe?

    Im just not convinced.



  48. Skanderbeg says:

    @”poglavnik”, how is talking about the most important issues that get you arrested on “hate speech” charges everywhere outside the United States equate to me being “insecure”? You won’t answer me b/c the question itself exposes you. Actually, you calling me that without refuting one thing I said means you’re insecure.

    @”suba”, the reason for the 90’s war stems from Communists wanting to “unite mankind”; people like Crnkovic are responsible. Once each nationality got a reasonable piece of the land pie, the bloodshed ended; unlike the Hundred Years War where one Wordist group were trying to “unite” everyone under their True Faith against another Wordist group tying to “unite” everyone under their True Faith.



  49. Skanderbeg says:

    @”Crnkovic”, In the real world, Black Nationalism is not an ideology, it is a reality. Blacks have nations and they are not ABOUT to hand them out to others the way you want to do with white countries. Oriental nationalism is also a fact. Neither China nor Japan has even THOUGHT of letting the rest of the world have their countries.

    Opposing what you call “White Nationalism” simply means handing out white lands to whoever wants them. It’s fun for you while it lasts, but it only lasts as long as you have something to give away.

    Over the years, people like you have played Lady Bountiful to all the grateful colored folk who poured in. More blacks have come to America since 1965 than in the entire slave trade previously. But you no longer have anything for the Faithful Colored Companions to love you about.

    They are beginning to wonder what the hell you are doing here on THEIR lands anyway. They are beginning to tolerate YOU. If you say anything about affirmative action, blacks are going to unite AGAINST you. Hispanics will vote against any attempt to limit Hispanic immigration. At the World Series, Hispanics who happened to be born inside the United States greeted, “Our Hispanic Brothers.”

    Your Lady Bountiful days are over. They don’t need you. We don’t need you. You have given all you have to give, and what other use ARE you to anybody?

    Now that the giving is over, what exactly IS your function in the new world?

    Nationalism in other races is not a theory. It is a FACT.

    What have YOU got to OFFER anybody? Now that you’ve run out of things to give away, how are you going to be part of the real world power politics bargaining process?

    Your entire discussion here is about what you are NOT.

    What ARE you? Who do you belong to as a bargaining group?

    Giveaway is yesterday. It’s already been given away. The Clintons enjoyed the last of that phase of history.



  50. Skanderbeg says:

    @”crnkovic” , which mommy professor book do you recommend that will convince me to spurn my gut instinct of being loyal to my kind?

    OF COURSE a Wordist says I should be loyal to a BOOK instead of my own kind.

    A sociopath has no loyalties, as a psychopath is incapable of guilt. You can’t explain to a sociopath WHY he should care about his own kind.



  51. Anonymous says:

    Why didn’t the elites start a white Christian refugee crisis lol, do you reckon the white Christians would of migrated to Mohammedan countries? I don’t think so muppets.

    It’s not a race thing ya donkeys, it’s a religious thing. Look at Turkey, they have racial diversity but they also have one faith common to all, that being Mohammedanism, and the antichrist Jews don’t give a shit about antichrist Mohammedan Turkey.

    The antichrist Jews want antichrist Mohammedans infecting Croatia, the dopey Mohammedans are doing the bidding of the unbelieving Jews, they’re just to stupid to realise it, or probably see it as way to spread their false religion in pathetic little Croatia.

    Croats are so dumb, when the Mohammedans come to Croatia all Croats will be called facists if they have any problem with racial diversity.

    What the fuck has Croatia got freedom of religion for if they don’t want Mohammedans, do the Croatian donkeys believe they’ll be sending us white Mohammedans only.

    Croats are the most pathetic people in the whole of Europe, and that’s not up for debate.





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